Bachmann Y-Chromosome Results

BACHMAN/BACHMANN/BAUGHMAN RESULTS (FTDNA FORMAT)

Introduction and the Results in Oxford Ancestors Format

ID	Known Bachman Ancestor	H a p l o .	DYS#
ID	Known Bachman Ancestor	H a p l o .	3 9 3	3 9 0	1 9	3 9 1	3 8 5 a	3 8 5 b	4 2 6	3 8 8	4 3 9	3 8 9 \| 1	3 9 2	3 8 9 \| 2	4 5 8	4 5 9 a	4 5 9 b	4 5 5	4 5 4	4 4 7	4 3 7	4 4 8	4 4 9	4 6 4 a	4 6 4 b	4 6 4 c	4 6 4 d	4 6 4 e	4 6 4 f	4 6 0	G A T A H 4	Y C A I I a	Y C A I I b	4 5 6	6 0 7	5 7 6	5 7 0	C D Y a	C D Y b	4 4 2	4 3 8
O914	Heinrich Bachmann, 1711 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	14	11			13	12		13	13	28
F20658	Heinrich Bachmann, 1711 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	15	11	11	15	13	12	12	13	13	28	17	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	29	15	15	16	17	17	18
O991	Heinrich Bachmann, 1711 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	14	11			13	12		13	13	28
F92522	Heinrich Bachmann, 1711 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	14	11	11	15	13	12	12	13	13	28	17	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	29	15	15	16	17	17	18	11	10	19	23	16	14	17	16	36	39	13	12
O236	Heinrich Bachmann, 1711 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	14	11			13	12		13	13	28
O452	Johannes Bachmann, 1800 (Alsace)	R1b1	13	24	14	11			13	12		13	13	28
O847	Johann Georg Bachmann, 1686 Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	14	11			13	12		13	13	28
O236	Heinrich Bachmann, 1711 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	14	11			13	12		13	13	28
F36392	Johann Georg Bachmann, 1686 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	14	11	11	15	13	12	12	13	13	28
A1	Johann Georg Bachmann, 1686 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	14	11	11	15	13	12	12	13	13	28	15			10	11	25	15	19		15	16	17	18			11	10	19	23	16			16				12
F21369	Jacob Bachman, 1761 (PA, lived Rensselaer Co., NY)	R1b1	13	24	14	11	11	15	13	12	12	13	13	28	17	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	29	15	16	16	17	17	18
F61547	Jacob Bachman, 1761 (PA, lived Rensselaer Co., NY)	R1b1	13	24	14	11	11	15	13	12	12	13	13	28	17	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	29	15	16	17	17	18
F58412	Valentine Bachman, 1820 (Easton, PA)	R1b1	13	24	14	11	11	15	13	12	12	13	13	28	17	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	29	15	15	16	17	17	17	11	10	19	23	16	14	17	16	36	39	13	12
O927	Johannes Bachmann, ca. 1757 (Schonenberg, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	24	14	11			13	12		13	13	28
E6027	Rudolf Bachmann, late 1800's (Lived in France and Vietnam)	R1b1	13	24	14	11	11	15	13	12	12	13	13	28	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	15	16	16	17	18	11	11	19	23	16	14	17	16	36	39	13	12
O686	Ignaz Bachmann, ca. 1788 (Berg Wolerau, Canton Schwyz)	R1b1	13	24	14	11			13	12		13	13	28
O461	Peter Bachmann, ca. 1655 (Fintersee, Canton Zug)	R1b1	13	24	14	11			13	12		13	14	29
O628	Alois Bachmann, 1711 (Hinwil, Canton Zurich)	R1b1	13	25	14	11			13	12		13	13	28

O355	Johannes Bachmann, 1745 (Canton Thurgau?/Lancaster, PA)	R1b1	13	23	14	11			12	12		12	13	28
O494	Unknown Swiss Bachmann, 1745 (Zofingen, Canton Aargau)	R1b1	13	23	14	11			12	12		12	13	28
O750	Jacob Bachmann, 1696 (VA, KY)	R1b1	13	23	14	11			12	12		12	13	28
O233	Jacob Bachmann, 1696 (VA, KY)	R1b1	13	23	14	11			12	12		12	13	28
F21143	John Baughman, 1800 (Westmoreland Co., PA)	R1b1	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	14	12	13	28	18	9	10	11	11	25	15	20	28	15	15	17	18
F113704	John Baughman , ca. 1809 (Pennsylvania )	R1b1	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	13	12	13	28	16	9	10	11	11	25	15	20	28	15	15	17	17			11	11	19	23	16	15	17	19	33	39	13	12
A2	Jacob Baughman, 1766 in PA (lived Westmorland Co.,PA )	R1b1	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	13	12	13	28	16			11	11	25		20	28	15	15	17	17			12	11	19	23								12
O370	Rudolf Bachmann, 1759 (Bottenwil, Canton Aargau)	R1b1	13	23	14	11			12	12		13	13	29
N3513	Unknown Bachmann (?)	R1b1	13	23	14	12	11	14	12	12	13	12	13	28

O892	Hans Heinrich Bachmann, ca. 1592 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	J2	12	23	14	10			11	15		13	11	30
O484	Hans Heinrich Bachmann, ca. 1592 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	J2	12	23	14	10			11	15		13	11	30
O441	Hans Heinrich Bachmann, ca. 1592 (Old Castle, Canton Zurich)	J2	12	23	14	10			11	15		13	11	30

O194	Martin Bachmann, 1558 (Canton Bern)	R1b1	13	24	14	10			12	12		13	13	29
F73573	Unknown Bachman,	R1b1	13	24	14	10	11	14	12	12	12	13	13	29
F133142	Martin Bachmann, 1558 (Canton Bern)	R1b1	13	24	14	10	11	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	30	14	15	17	17			11	11	19	23	15	15	18	17	37	38	12	12

F30619	Frederic Bachmann, 1790 (Canton Bern)	R1b1	13	23	14	10	11	15	12	12	13	13	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	28	15	15	16	17

O515	Johann Christian Bachmann, 1710 (Canton Bern, York Co., PA)	R1b1	13	24	13	11			12	12		13	13	29
O747	Stephen Baughman, ca. 1852 (Kentucky?)	R1b1	13	24	15	11			12	12		13	13	29

O954	Hans Heinrich Bachmann, 1700 (Himwil, Canton Zurich)	G2	15	21	15	10			10	12		12	11	29

F53164	Valentine Bachmann, 1820 (Easton, PA)	G2	14	22	15	10	14	16	11	12	9	12	11	29	16	9	9	11	11	24	16	22	31	12	13	14	14

O321	Michael Baughman, ca. 1690 (Lancaster Co., PA)	I1	13	22	14	10			11	14		13	11	29
F41085	Jacob Baughman, ca. 1789 (PA, lived Clinton Co., IN)	I1	13	22	14	10	13	15	11	14	12	13	11	29	16	8	9	8	11	23	16	20	30	12	14	15	17			10	10	19	21	14	14	17	19	36	37	12	10
F107515	Christian Baughman, ca. 1777 (lived Huntington Co., PA)	I1	13	22	14	10	13	15	11	14	12	13	11	29	17	8	9	8	11	23	16	20	30	12	14	15	17
F113340	information not obtained yet	I1	13	22	14	10	13	16	11	14	12	13	11	29	17	8	9	8	11	23	16	20	30	12	14	15	17			10	10	19	21	14	14	18	19	36	37	12	10
Sor	Jacob Bachman, 1820 (Lebanon Co., PA)	I1		22	14	10	13	15	11	14	12	13	11	29		8	9		11	23	16	20								10	10	19	21	14						12	10

O329	Henry Baughman, 1759 (Northampton Co., PA)	I2b	15	23	15	10			11	13		13	12	29
F43333	Henry Baughman, 1759 (Northampton Co., PA)	I2b	15	23	15	10	15	16	11	13	12	13	12	29	15	9	9	11	11	24	14	20	27	13	14	15	15			10	10	19	21	14	15	17	20	33	34	12	10
F48365	Henry Baughman, 1759 (Northampton Co., PA)	I2b	15	23	15	10	15	16	11	13	12	13	12	29	15	9	9	11	11	24	14	19	27	13	14	14	15			10	10	19	21	14	16	17	20	33	34	12	10

O792	Hans Rudolf Bachmann, 1634 (Osli, Breiten, Canton Zurich)	R?	13	24	16	11			12	12		14	13	30

F20653	Christian Baughman, 1760's (PA, lived Tuscarawas Co., OH)	L	11	23	15	10	13	17	11	12	12	13	13	31	15	9	9	10	11	23	16	19	31	14	15	15	16

O657	John Baughman, 1889 (African-American, KY)	E3a	13	21	16	10			11	12		13	11	29

N23686	Valentine Bachmann, ca. 1820 (Bayern, Germany)	J2	12	25	15	10	13	15	11	15	12	13	11	29	16	9	9	11	11	24	16	20	27	13	14	15	16			11	10	19	23	16	14	14	17	34	36	11	10

Sor	Albert Bachmann 1872 (Prussia to Canada)	R1b1	13	24	14	10	12	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	30							11	11	19	23	16						12	12

Sor	Karl Bachmann 1883 (Orferode Germany)	I1	12	24	14	10	13	17	12	15	12	12	11	28	16	8	9	11	11	28	16	19	29							11	10	19	20	13						12	9

ID	Known Bachman Ancestor	H a p l o .	3 9 3	3 9 0	1 9	3 9 1	3 8 5 a	3 8 5 b	4 2 6	3 8 8	4 3 9	3 8 9 \| 1	3 9 2	3 8 9 \| 2	4 5 8	4 5 9 a	4 5 9 b	4 5 5	4 5 4	4 4 7	4 3 7	4 4 8	4 4 9	4 6 4 a	4 6 4 b	4 6 4 c	4 6 4 d	4 6 4 e	4 6 4 f	4 6 0	G A T A H 4	Y C A I I a	Y C A I I b	4 5 6	6 0 7	5 7 6	5 7 0	C D Y a	C D Y b	4 4 2	4 3 8
ID	Known Bachman Ancestor	H a p l o .	DYS#

R1b1	Most common values for haplogroup R1b	R1b1	13	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	29	15	15	17	17			11	11	19	23	16	15	18	17	36	38	12	12

NOTES

ID's. The ID’s of participants tested by Oxford Ancestors are prefixed with an “O” and were assigned randomly. Participants tested by FamilyTreeDNA (FTDNA) were given an ID which has been prefixed with “F” or an "E" in the table above. FTDNA participants who joined as part of the National Geographic Society Genographic Study have been assigned a prefix of N. Those who were tested by Ancestry.com (formerly Relative Genetics) are prefixed with "A." A few anonymous Bachman/Baughman contributers to the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Project have also been added to this page. They are not given an ID number but have "Sor" in the ID field, and are not actually participants in our project.

Lineages. In order to view the lineage of each participant, click on the name of the ancestor in the first column. For descendants of 18th century American immigrants, the name of the ancestor is the immigrant ancestor. For Swiss nationals and more recent immigrant lines, the earliest known ancestor is shown. Lineages have been compiled from various sources and may not be complete or entirely accurate.

Result Values. The names of the markers tested are shown across the top row (e.g. "DSY390"). The values for those markers (number of repeats) are shown in the row for each participant (e.g. "24" for DYS390 for most of the participants in the first--yellow--cluster; "23" for all the participants in the second--blue--cluster). The markers DYS464e and DYS464f are unusual extra copies of the DYS464 marker, which usually has four copies. This multi-copy marker is difficult to read, so the reported differences among the Richterswil Bachmann descendants for those markers may not be real. We are beginning to do more refined tests to be more certain about the values and numbers of DSY464 markers. For more information on markers and a general introduction to y-chromosome studies using DNA for family history see The y-chromosome and genetic genealogy.

Clusters. Participants believed or known to share a common ancestor have been grouped together and colored similarly. Gray shading, instead of colored, indicates where there is a different value from others in the group at that marker. It implies that one line has had a mutation that the others have not had, although in two cases where two participants are grouped together (ID’s O194/F30619 and O515/O747) it is unknown which line may have had a mutation. Where a common ancestor is suspected but not certain, a slightly different shade of coloring is used (as in the two groups just mentioned). In those cases, further markers would need to be tested to be more certain. The markers DYS464e and DYS464f are not colored except for the first group of Bachmann (the Richterswil group), as they would not expected to be present.

Haplogroups. Most of the Bachmann descendants so far tested belong to the R1b haplogroup. Haplogroups are large sets of people who all descendant from a common ancestor thousands or tens of thousands of years ago—sometimes referred to as the “sons of Adam” in a figurative sense. Haplogroup R1b is the most common haplogroup in Europe and is especially common along the Atlantic coast (reaching more than 80% of males in Ireland and parts of Spain). We have included the most common (modal) values of R1b in the last row for comparison purposes, which is shaded gray where it differs from the first (yellow) group of Bachmann participants. The R1b haplogroup is sometimes claimed to have been the haplogroup of the Aurignacians who were the first modern human to enter Europe at a time that the Neandertals were still common, as much as 30,000 years ago. Alternately the R1b descendants may have been survivors of those first modern humans who took refuge in Spain during the last glacial maximum and then repopulated the western part of Europe after the Ice Ages ended, perhaps 10,000 years ago. The third groups of participants (colored pink) have values that are likely haplogroup J2, which is associated with agricultural people of the Fertile Crescent, who entered Europe at a much later time. It is also found among current Middle Eastern populations. Participant O657 has values that are typical of haplogroup E3a, which is a common African haplogroup. Participant O657 is African American and his results indicate that his patrilineal ancestor indeed was African rather than European. Participants O321 and F41085 almost certainly belongs to haplogroup I (and most likely I1a), which is the second most common haplogroup in Europe and is especially common in central and northern Europe. Some believe that Halogroup I is associated with the Gravettian culture and members of that halogroup are believed to have helped repopulate Europe eight to ten thousand years ago from an ice-age refuge in the Balkans. Participants O329 and F43333 are most likely haplogroup I1c. Participant 20653 has a very unusual set of values and had his haplogroup tested. He turned out to be L, a rather uncommon haplotype in Europe that is found mainly in India and Pakistan but also in some Middle Eastern populations (such as Turkey) from where it could have spread to Central Europe in pre or early historic times. Some others have less clear haplotypes, and would require further testing to be certain. A more detailed explanation of haplogroups can be found at The y-chromosome and genetic genealogy.

Participate? If you are a male with the Bachman/Baughman surname who descends directly though Bachmann/Bachman/Baughman males and are interested in joining the study, please contact J. Ross Baughman at j_ross_baughman@hotmail.com or Phil Ritter at philr@stanford.edu. Unfortunately females do not have the y-chromosome, and cannot participate directly, but may want to sponsor a father, brother, husband or other relative with the Bachman/Baughman surname.

Last Updated: July 2009; Philip Ritter