Dear Mr. Donnelly:
You have some great material which I am just beginning to explore.(I loved the article "What on Earth Happened in 3200 BC?"). I will link you site into my main Underground Streams page
Richard Shand
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
This site is interesting, yet the odd combination of personal
issues and apocalyptic vision detracts from the power of the scientific
and religious observations. It's really too bad. Otherwise I would recommend
your site to
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I believe that egyptians are a very strange nation, i'd
be glad to discover if you know any data which exclude the possibly of
a extraterrestral contact of them.
Jazz
alberto.giordano@cuneo.alpcom.it
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I read the abbreviated version of your article. Research
I conducted in SE Utah supports a climatic "perturbation" around 5000 B.P.
In a box canyon, massive alluvial deposition was followed by lake development.
The basal date of the alluvial unit (5180 B.P.) is essentially the same
as the basal date of the lake deposits (5110 B.P.), about 1.5 meaters above.
The (earliest) lake unit is relatively small (c. 30 cm thick), but is rich
in diatoms and deserves inspection at close intervals. Anyway, I'd be glad
to provide details if your interested. Also, you may want to check a "blip"
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Interesting information. It would be a good study to look
at the data from the perspective of planetary sea levels. Using your data
set and others you could do a plot of planetary sea levels and plot the
coastlines for the different levels versus the known topography of the
earth. This would allow the study of potential paleosites of human habitation.
Dennis Ray Wingo
wingod@csparc.uah.edu
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
This is a brilliant idea....
Alexandra
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
You're a nut!What does that skull have to do with anything?I
take it you live in Idaho or something? Everybody knows there was a flood.That's
why there are storys about it.But a higher water level in the River deltas
does not a flood make.It was different.You must be crazy.None of this stuff
links up.Do you sell Amway as
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Not convincing at all! there are lots of climatic events
which will eventaully show up in the records happening around the globe
at any one time(in a geological sense) The timing of your events are to
widely spaced to indicate anyone global event and also there are more records
going back to this time including some very high resolution and sensitive
reocords where events dont show up. Major global events eg galcial cycles
leave tons of evidence, lesser events eg the younger dyras are leave less
evidence and are hotly debated. I think the appx fit is cooincidence but
I would love to
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
OK. So we're getting the evidence that the flood myths
which turn up in geographically disparate cultures have a basis in fact.
What major volcanic eruptions or impact craters near the poles have been
identified that would cause rapid melting of part of the ice cap-- causing
floods and the Dead Sea to rise 300ft??
Denise
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
This information has been very helpful. I am currently
taking a conservation course and your information has given me further
insight. Thank you very much
barton evans
gsi08506
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I was positively surprised about your interdisziplinary
approach to paleoclimatic conditions. The linking up of climatology, paleo-
geography, history and other sciences is very good. I congratulate you
to your publication in the internet
Prof. Dr. D. Vogelsang
prof.vogelsang@t-online.de
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Great... when can we expect the next one Iggy?
Myk Trow
redletter@icon,co,za
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
i think the whole earth was under water and then a cold
front came. i have a bs degree in math and a bs degree in civil engineering
Conrad Timothy
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I think the world will end by a great war between China
and the USA. I have done lots of research on this and I really think it
will happen. China's military is great and so is the USA's. Tension is
growing between the 2 countries and people have been predicting this for
years. Garfman,
Garfman
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
An excellent presentation and very interesting. Here are
some constructive criticism points INTENDED primarily to help validate
your concepts when presented to a "open" group of people. I read the "comments"
section and would like to offer my suggestions. Please do not be offended.
[1] Avoid from making any conclusions. I would suggest that you have a
section called "Conclusions" and state simply that "... evidence appears
to point to an event that occured at 3200 BC... " and "...the cause of
this event and the extent of its' effect is still undetermined..." as well
as "... it is easy to make some conclusions based on the limited amount
of information presented... " and finally, "... I must refrain from making
any conclusions at this time." [2] One of your charts is presented as a
mirror image and needs to be corrected. [3] It would be VERY intersting
if you were to compare a timeline of known meteriorite craters and your
information. Again, your web site is very interesting and is well researched.
My comments are only concerning the presentation to the population. It
has been my experience that if you present an overwhelming amount of data
and information that "speeks for
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I do not believe that the information provided here is
a valid comparison between the religious and scientific aspects of the
events that occurred in 3200 BC. It is my belief that it is possible that
a great flood covered the earth, however, how can anybody say that it was
God's work. If there is a God, which I don't think so, would he really
kill millions of people. Maybe it's just me but science rules over religion
any
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
What do you think of all the predications of either earth
quakes or atomic wars starting in the year 1998 supposidly ending the conantal
america as it now is. These have predicated buy various people with the
uncertainty of which way it is supposed to happen and where. thanks to
your feedback.
dale johansen
bigblue@pdx.oneworld.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I am looking at splitting of megalithic stones! It seems
that these stones were splitted by intent. In many theories ones hears
that ice could break these stones. The question is, was there enough coldness
around 3200 CalBC? This coldness should be available in Northern Europe
(Danmark, The Netherlands, Poland and Germany), were many paasage graves
were build and sometimes splitted stones pop up. Can people say something
about this? Also have a look at
Victor Reijs
victor.reijs@myself.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
The end of the world has already begone in subtle ways.
In the bible it says that the end of the world will begene with greed.It
also says that it will end with the numbers 666. Now in our modourne day
we use a system of barr codes. Bar codes are seperated by three lines,
each line is seperated by a six, 666. Also the planets are startingto line
up in a christian cross. In a couple of years this cross will complete.This
is not astrology it is astrology, it is astronomy.I do not no what this
means, but itca't be good. Also when this happens the bigest floods in
the world will begin. Also when Worln War 3 begins, anbd theres nuclear
war, a lot of us our bound todie. There is also thec hance that a comet
or asteroids hit the earth and we all die simultaniasley. But probobly
we will bring on our own death, with polution and species
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Very interesting! Thanks for the input! I am reading a
book by Julian Jaynes, it's called, 'The origin of consciousness in the
breakdown of the bicameral mind'. In this book, he mentions the destruction
of the Minoan culture, north of present day Crete about 5,000 B.P. Indeed,
something DID happen about that time. We have archeological evidence of
an incredible volcanic episode destroying those people. The cause of this
episode has yet to be determined. I would champion either axial realignment
of the earth and planets by a close encounter with another star, the influence
of solar evolution, or impact by a yet unknown meteor or comet, perhaps
in mid-ocean. The dissemation of linguistic and cultural influence during
this period indicates a phenomenal redistribution of peoples! Perhaps we
are meant to learn something from these records,
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Once again, I return to your web page to explore further.
Ingatius, incarnate? Who'r ya lad? Why do I hear the sound of Irish bagpipes
when I think of ye? Kitchen middens (ancient trash piles), found in the
San Fransico Bay area, indicate that the people living here along the shoreline,
ate a great deal of shellfish. Also, the remains many types of aquatic
fowl, and fishes are mixed in these middens. Bits of charcoal also found,
have been dated to around 5,000 years B.P. The calcium content of the mussel
shells indicate that there was once 10X the fresh water then currently
coming into the bay. We have to assume that there was a great deal more
runoff then at present. This indicates that rain was much more abundant,
in the 'golden state', and the existence of a far wetter climate. Dendo-chronology
(tree ring studies) also indicate that the weather patterns here have varied
incredibly through the ages. There is record of a 500 years draught! The
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Don't forget that the Biblical flood was most likely transcribed
from the tale of Utnapishtim in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Given the fact that
there are several flood stories in ancient literature, something probably
did happen that was stuck in the collective memories of the first poets.
Have you also heard the observations of rainwater streaks on the Sphinx
from that warmer, wetter period, which would make it
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
This appears to be one of the more "eye-opening" sites
on the web ! Has anyone ever done a comparative analysis of timelines for
sea level changes as observable for various continents, and major historic
known volcanic events ? That might cast further light on climatological
changes and human population patterns...? [Any volunteers out there ?
Bram Diepenbrock
BD94585@concentric.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
This appears to be one of the more "eye-opening" sites
on the web ! Has anyone ever done a comparative analysis of timelines for
sea level changes as observable for various continents, and major historic
known volcanic events ? That might cast further light on climatological
changes and human population patterns...? [Any volunteers out there ?
Bram Diepenbrock
BD94585@concentric.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Quote from Julian Jaynes
'D'= me
djacobs@mcn.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
As we all know, Atlantis had sunken into the sea in 2
stages - First time -after Phaeton explotion (10,000 B.C.) Second - as
mentioned above, creating First pharaoh dynasties in Egypt and starting
Mayan year-counting. The sink of 3000 B.C. is mentioned in Byble as the
flood, destroing evil (sons of belial, as mentioned in some site called
"Atlantis, Lemuria and Mu) Thank you for reading that. I'll be back as
soon as I
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
As we all know, Atlantis had sunken into the sea in 2
stages - First time -after Phaeton explotion (10,000 B.C.) Second - as
mentioned above, creating First pharaoh dynasties in Egypt and starting
Mayan year-counting. The sink of 3000 B.C. is mentioned in Byble as the
flood, destroing evil (sons of belial, as mentioned in some site called
"Atlantis, Lemuria and Mu) Thank you for reading that. I'll be back as
soon as I
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Paleoclimate in Japan (Joumon period) also warm during
Early and Middle Joumon periods. This is referred to as "hipushi saamaru".
Is there a word "hypsithermal" in English? What would it mean? Middle Joumon
is about 3,500 B.C. , the warm weather seems to fit nicely with the huge
spike at 3200 years BC. I'd like to learn more.-
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Hello. My name is Catherine Woods. I am a graduate student
in the education department at the University of Memphis. As a special
project I am exploring web sites that can be used for educational purposes.
I would appreciate it if you could help me by answering a few questions
about the site that you maintain. Please E-mail your responses to me as
soon as possible (cwoods@cc.memphis.edu). Feel free to elaborate on any
of your answers. Thank you very much. 1. What is the primary purpose of
the site? a. information sharing b. sales c. advertising d. internal use
e. networking f. other (please explain) 2. How do you assess the effectiveness
of the site? a. usage patterns b. user response c. other (please explain)
3. Who is your target audience? a. children b. parents c. educators d.
other (please explain) 4. What is the source of your information? a. personal
expertise b. government publications c. standard reference materials d.
other (please explain) 5. What are the qualifications of the author? a.
professional educator b. degree in subject area c. other (please explain)
6. How is the site supported? a. government funds b. corporate funds c.
institutional funds d. private funds e. other (please explain) 7. How often
is the site updated? a. daily b. weekly c. monthly d. yearly e. other (please
explain) 8. How many visitors do you estimate use the
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
To Dick Meehan We met at the Cambridge Conference Much
appreciate your web page - full of interest to me. Do you have anything
pubished about the Kavun river influence on mesopotamian floods? Best regards,
Shelley Dorset U.K.
Shelley Fey
100113.1041@compuserve.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
do you have a www adress for the national paleoclimate
data center in Boulder, CO?
jeff kirwan
kirwan@virginia.edu
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
The scientiffic facts discovered for the time period of
3200 b.c. are typical for an impact of a large asteroid or comet. The impact
blowed up massive dust clouds into the atmosphere. These dust clouds blocked
the sunlight for many months - a global cold period began. During it`s
flight through the earth atmosphere the comet headed up on some 10 000
degrees celcious, causing a reaction between the atmospheric nitrogen and
oxygen. The result was a verry corrosive and worldwide acid rain of sulfo-
ric acide. If the impact happened into an ocean, there would be also blasted
great numberes of steam into the atmosphere. This steam caused a greenhouse
effect just after the global temperature fall off has ended. Floodings
and errosions are also a con- sequence of a water- impact. Some importent
articles rellated to this theme do exist. In 1981 the US- geo- logist Luiz
Alvarez prooved that the extinction of the dinosaurs was the cause of a
large asteroid impact. During his study he discovered simmilar data to
the one you have found for the time period of 3200 b.c. The austrian geologist
Alexander Tollmann also found simmilar facts for another impact in 7552
b.c. This impact could be the reason for the
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
You talk about the flooding of the Baltic via the Mediteranian
in 7500 BC. I assume you mean the Black Sea via the Bosporus? There is
no way the Baltic Sea could have been filled this way ... Please confirm.
OttoR. Heine
orheine@hotmail.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Evolution is a crock! Continue educating people on the
truth. I feel sorry for the unknowing people when on judgement day... they
will learn the
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Nice job, keep it up!
Tom Edson
edson@stanford.edu
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Many years ago, I read about a place, in South America,
I'M not really sure weather it's either Chile, or Peru , or some other
South American country.... But, I do remember that it was explained as
this.....We discovered some caves..... not just normal caves..... but caves
which were uniform,...approximately 12'X18' in height and width, but which
seemed to go on for an undetermined length. The thing that intriged me
the most was this,..... They could find no place within hundreds of miles,
where the tailings of these mines, or caves , was deposited. In fact, it
was implied, that the walls of these caves,.... seemed to be ,.... lazer
cut or excavated. Ancient caves, Lazer cut, no tailings, struck me as extremely
interesting. At the time, I was reading books like, "Chariots of the Gods"
and " In Search of Ancient Astonauts". Even though these books were questionable,
as to their verifiable facts, I was intrigued by the pictures of the actual
caves shown in nthe book. My question to you is this?...... Have you heard,
or seen, or have any resources which I could investigate myself, which
would help me to track down these caves? So far, I have been unable to
track down any references to these caves, where they are, or what has been
learned about them since then. Anything you might know, or be
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Upon looking at your page "Science, Love....", I deduced
that those pill picts were either communion wafers or "hits" of ectasy.
Your site proves to be interesting, however you take the bible to such
literal lengths. Perhaps it was a code of ethics, similar to Buddism, etc.
While the Bible presents a good source of human mores, is it the "end all...be
all"? This question is only asked to provide you with a
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Well, well. The comments were almost more interesting
than the site itself. Not to say that boundaries in the world are not useful,
they are, but clearly here is a man who has broken the rules and crossed
the sacred religious and academic boundaries of many, else why all the
ire and scorn? The more layers there are to a question, a story, a myth,
scientific data... the more interesting it becomes. I think the value is
not in learning what the "TRUTH" is (or is not), but what we learn about
others and ourselves along the way, the questions we ask, the pictures
we paint, our own weave of the story thread and how it meshes with the
world. Anyway, it is fascinating getting another look at a man I've been
acquainted with for over 10 years, and discovering that I do AND I don't
know him well. A paradox. It's what makes life worth living, the journey,
not the end. And that is what I think the site is, a journey.
pwyll the welsh
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
The phenomena you describe and some mentioned in the comments
appear to be the result of the great explosion of the volcano which is
now the island of Santorini in the Meditteranean.
MIKE
mmillage@hotcoco.infi.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Very interesting. check out
Peggy
u0a75@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I was aware that there was a flood around 3105 BC, but
after reading the other data you presented am now convinced a shift of
the poles occured. The 3105 figure comes from a flood mentioned in Vedic
literature. This may be confirmed by examining the magnetic patterns set-up
in lava flows.
Mike White
sparky@kode.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I read your page 'What on Earth Happened in 3200 BC' with
great interest, as it echoes many of the concepts in my own book
Paul
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
My name is Lauren Hunt. I am a high school freshman from
Indiana. Today I am reserching Creationism v. Evolution so I can defend
Creationism in school in a few weeks when we enter that topic area. I really
enjoyed reading your information. I belive that the bible says exactly
what God meant. (I am a Christian, Catholic to be persise.) I read some
of the other comments that people wrote. One person was talking about how
the flood couldn't happen because of the different races. A new type of
DNA (it's called Microcondria DNA or somthing really close to that) has
been discovered. It is passed on from mother to daughter. Every female
in every race has this certain kind of DNA. The scienctist are all saying
how this says that there was one female somewhere back in history that
is the great-great (great on and on) grandma of us all. That takes away
the major complaint of the flood story. I'd like to mention another point.
Today I read that all the geologists agree that the earth has been hospitable
to life of any kind for 4 billion years. When we think about all that time
it seems like an eternity, pleanty of time for evolution to take place.
On the contrarry, that is several billion years to short of time. DNA contains
3 billion nitorgenous base pairs or in other words 3 billion little rungs
on the twisted ladder shape. This would mean that DNA would have to change
at the rate of .75 base pairs a year (not generation)! This is DNA alone!
We haven't even mentioned the cell. Even an extra billion years can't help!
To be taking place at the rate Evolutionists say we need billions upon
billions of more years! Heck, I haven't even mentioned the fact that Neatertal
DNA was tested and was proven that the Neantertal are NOT
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I just sent in some info. It was the really long one about
3 different things. (DNA in females of every race passed on mother to daughter,
not enough time for evolution to take place and Neantertals are not humans.)
I was wondering if you could sens me any scientific information suporting
Creationism. If you could I would relly apperciate it.
Lauren Hunt
gphunt@iquest.net Subject= To Lauren
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Dear Mr. Donnelly, My name is Jennifer Koons, and my partner's
name is Sarah Darrow. We are advanced Chemistry students at Corning Union
High School. We are doing a project on Global Climate, later we will be
holding a Climate Conference simulation and presenting our research papers.
Part of the requirements for our project is to contact a expert in the
field we are researching. Our topic is paleoclimatology, but we have narrowed
our topic down to 'The climate in ancient times, and how climate change
affected civilization. Any information and/or tips you could give to us
would be greatly
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Your pages are very thrilling and exciting. My own investigations
have shown that something dramatically happened about 3000 BC. However
You have made a serius error, at least in one case
Dag Kihlman
kihlman@algonet.se
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Sorry! I wrongly believed You hadn't calibrated the dates,
but I when I took a close look I realized that You have indeed done that!
Dag
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
wow! what evidence of the suppossed "end of the world".
do you, personally, really think this stuff is really evidence of the end,
or just coincidental stuff that fulfills the imaginations of man that began
5000 years ago?
nick
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I would like to see how Sunda and Sahul fit into your
chronology. The arival of the first wave of Australian aboriginal is thought
to have occoured in conjunction with falling sea levels. Recent interpretations
put their arrival here at some time between 100,000 and 120,000 years ago.
John Niddrie
jniddrie@taunet.net.au.
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I think aliens done it "Rimmer, you think everythin's
aliens..."
Shan
9506636w@student.gla.ac.uk
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
From the scientific data presented, what went on in 3200
BC must have been similar to what went on in the period 800-900 AD. Has
anybody found evidence of the flooding from a massive lake contained by
ice dams from the last Ice age similar to what happen in Eastern Washington
when the Clark Fork river got backed up during the last Ice age. Maybe
it happened over the Bering Strait. Hank
H Fritze
Hfritze@redstone.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
What do you think about documented climate change in ancient
Egypt? I've read somewhere that in the pyramide age wood was usual construction
material in Egypt, though already in 11-12 dinasties wood was rare and
pharaons sent for wood to Biblos. What links has it with appearence of
Sakhara?
Dmitry
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Great ppage with wonderful insight into some of lifes
greatest mysteries.
Brian Belkin, Ph.D
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
It is refreshing to see a database of this sort that is
not promoting some agenda, be it Pro Creation and Conservatism, or the
now popular Atheistic movement, or doom and gloom Environmental Pseudoscience
twaddle. Thank you for a relatively complete (to date) and unbiased view
of the physical facts regarding the time and events of interest. I hope
others emulate the mature and responsible demeanor shown
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I noticed your timeline says BP. Why don't you say before
Christ? Nonchristians as well as scientists still use the same dividing
line as BC or AD (Present). It seems science has an aversion to admit or
deal with GOD.
J.
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Great research. Will comment at a later time. Thank you!
B.J. Zerkel
bjzerkel@kalama.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
if we don't know what happened in 3200 BC then nothing
happened. something exist only if know and/or believe it is.
the-bean
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
March 7, 1998 Hi I am sure God planned every year of His
creation since the day he did create and started communicating with man.
Therefore
Gregor Georg Gimmel
gregg17@hotmail.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
A book that I have written on this subject is soon to
be available--in about two months. I think you will find it of interest.
I will send you a review copy free of charge if you will provide me with
a proper mailing address. Thanks.
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I realy like your wedsite. Keep up to good work.
Tony
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I have a publication that you may find very interesting.
It is a model for solar output since 30,000 BP. Basically it is a series
superimposed cycles in solar activity. The resultant values of solar energy
coincide with many series of climate proxy data from -30 Kyrs on as well
as historical information after 8K. Please email for a
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
this really sucks. i need info on hydrology
austin barr
pbono@bellatlantic.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
poop poop poop poop poop poop poop poop poop poop
austin
pbono@bellatlantic.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
The eagle screams at midnight. Yes. And the man in the
sun is
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
You may find it handy to include on your page a proposed
map of the world for both 3100 BCE and 12,500 BCE. Great Site!
Gil Payson
gil@gilbaby.dinoco.de
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Ignatio....apparently we are experiencing similar climatic
disruptions now? Climatic upheaval....earth in upheaval? Solar system redistributing
itself? Incredible amounts of water vapor in the atmosphere at present.....More
evidence arises of late, that bronze age civilizations were 'stressed'
even destroyed by mid-ocean cometary or asteroidal impact and subsequent
climatary changes....I propose that the current climatic upheaval and subsequent
appearance of a large number of comets indicates a similar series of events
occuring today? In 1981 a series of relitively rare planetary conjunctions
began....it lasted 12 years or so..... Gas giants Jupiter and Saturn met
with Neptune and Uranus in Sagitarius, which is were the main local gravity
well is....i.e. the center of the milky way galaxy. The recent rash of
comets along with the climate changes we're witnessing......Shoemaker/Levy
9, Hyakutake, Hale Bopp, and others, like C/1998 H1 Stonehouse....found
just last week, and the crazy weather we're having...and the increased
water vapor appearing in the latest Mars Global Observer images...are....very
interesting in their conjunction. I really like seeing the Mars data 'pouring'
in! Great STUFF! Mars is a dirt-ball! Sand-blasted canyons and mile upon
mile of dunes...hmmmm... Especially because earth based telescopes confirm
recent increased water vapor cloud activity
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Have any of you been to www.creationscience.com, Dr. walt
brown has some pretty good explainations for all this stuff!
hutch
hutchnet@mailexcite.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Wow! This comments list alone ought to be required reading
in any evolution/creation discussion group! It spans the entire subject
wonderfully, from incisive and detailed criticism (on both sides) to childish
name-calling (on both sides.) It's amazing that any two people ever agree
on anything! Cheers!
Jefferson
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Iggy= Now that you consider yourself an ubiased, scientific
enquirer on the Holocene...I have a suggestion for your personal growth.
Why don't you take the time to study the past alittle more to round out
your education. You have a bit of a grasp on what happened 1000 years ago
and 10,000 years ago. Now try studying with some intensity and sophistication
what happened 100,000 years ago and 1,000,000 years ago and 10,000,000
years ago and 100,000,000 years ago ad 1,000,000,000 years ago. It's really
just adding 0's... powers of ten. My 6 year old can do it...can you? Or
doesn't an
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Do you ever consider the fact of extra-terrestrial life
destroying the planet
Zach Speece
homcidal_dude@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I think the world will end soon. Next year in July ww3
will break ou and the U.S.A and Russia will not be on the same side. Then
if we all survive, we will have a catastrophe at the 5/5/2000.
Frank Smith
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
There is a very strong possibility that the events described
by your text involves a GeoMagnetic Reversal. At around 13,000 BC there
was a geomagnetic reversal of 30 degrees. This event shifted the poles
30 degrees off the Y axis. Thus the Ice Caps at both the north and the
south poles were exposed to warmer climates. Rapid melting of ice occurred.
Thus extreme flooding was the result. Prior to this, Antartica was in a
very temperate and comfortable zone. It probably housed cities and civilization.
Perhaps a civilization of sailers. I trust that the implimcation of this
means that the Ice Age was not rather a period of hot / cold climate changes,
but rather the periodic variation of the geomagnetic poles. Aside from
the evidence that you have indicated, one must not dismiss the extreme
WATER EROSION indicated on selective Egyption Artifacts. Namely the Sphinx,
and other temple structures. Note also that many have been 'repaired' by
the Egyptions in the 3000 BC time frame. I cannot explain the relationship
between Egypt and the various floods, except to state that floods have
affected the culture of the region. That is certain. Also, that the Great
Pyramid was built in 4000 BC and this was AFTER the last flood whereas
it was deemed very important that the pyramid structure be built. I do
not know or understand the functions of the chambers. But I do know this,
and perhaps I am the only one who knows this, that the ANTECHAMBER in the
entry passage to the Kings Chamber in the Great Pyramid is a functional
DEVICE. It is not a passage. By chance, I had used the identical design
of the ANTICHAMBER in one of my appliance designs. Look at the Holmes Products
Corporation Humidifier HM-5450. You will note that there is a path where
cool water enters the boiling chamber. In order to prevent the premature
mixing of temperature and various undesirable steam effects, a maze was
developed so as to STAGE the water path. The ANTICHAMBER is almost the
same identical design. Please do notmisunderstand that I think that the
Great Pyramid is some kind of giant Humidifier, but realize that this structure
was built within short memory of the Flood and was designed
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I thoroughly enjoyed the Science "Path" of this site.
I have a B.S. in geological engineering, and much of this information was
new, but not uncomprehendable. However, it seems that none of the paths
is clearly organized into sections of thought. It might more more sense
to organize into the evidence for catastrophes by either times or events.
For example, put all the references to methane peaks in one section, rather
than spreading them out over several pages of other information, such as
sea levels or climate trends. And the "Love Path" doesn't fit into any
of this discussion. The section seems more like fictional stories, which,
while they are enjoyable, have very little to do with the topic that attracted
most people to this site. But these are merely suggestions, and despite
my comments, I still enjoyed exploring
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
For a lot of interesting information about floods, pyramids
and catastrophes, a very good book is Gods Of The New Millenium, by Alan
Alford.
David HODGSON
100665,2227@compuserve.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
small comet or asteroidal impact?
chris
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Compare to History as seen through the eyes of the Masonic
Fraternity.
M Megeath
mtmegeath@AOL.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Yes... It's true. Reputable scientists do have indisputable
proof that supports creationism and the Bible. Informed scientists around
the world have acknowledged the knowledge of creationism. The issue is
already closed. There are too many evidences to list in this message. Religious Investigator
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
More of a request please, I would like to have the full
data for that oak tree ring belfast data if at all possible. I am looking
for sun spot events on a 10.6 year cycle that should show up - (but how
far back?) as lower than normal growth - not all cycles will be bad, but
the oaak from Spessart adn Treir in Germany showed this back to 800 Ad
so I am wanting to examine data as far back as possible. Ditto can yoou
provide data or ref to German Oak also P L E A S E !! Re event 5200 BP-
it appears SOMETHING happened, also 8000 BP ... and I would like to know
what, solar likned? I am working the same problem but from different point
of view. JHLL
James (Jim) H. L. Lawler (PhD)
jhlawr@flash.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I have studied the prehistory of not only the earth but
the entire solar system and have been doing this since 1976. I can explain
every enigma known to man and can back it up with facts. I would be willing
to share this information if you give me something you are particularly
wondering about. Contact me at ctc69@hotmail.com .
Charles
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I don't know what u r talking about, but it showed alot
more exciting on one of the magazines. thanks
Morgan
smile99@uti.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Fascinating compliation of information, but more than
that - I can't help but get the feeling that there are many people out
there working independantly on various projects and if they could all be
brought together, each with their own small, but important part of the
picture - then an awsome story would be told. Keep up the work. There are
a few people out there doing the research while the rest of us battle with
what we perceive to be more important (fixing the car, buying a house...)
- but we are be
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I want to know who first described the hydrological cycle..ie
precipitation, runoff, evaporation condensation etc. I would appreciate
any info in the next 24 hours. Thanks a million..!
Mark
mnett@picknowl.com.au
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
it seems that you need to check out the real world and
get a date!
j thomas
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I know the posting has been up for awhile, here are some
notes of one theory that might correspond to what your wondering about.
Recently, I have noted around 3100 B.C. there was a minor pole shift. did
you know this??? It was just enough to start up some volcanic activity.
It was not an abrupt shift very minimal and progressive best estimates
is 2-3 degrees tops over a 200-300 year period. The way I found out would
blow your mind and so give me the credit on this one. When you take say
the name of a star and it shows at a certain latitude of earth by a persons
name noting it on the horizon at say 3100 B.C. the star is on an improper
lattitude for where it should be say an error 1-2 degrees. This person
could not make a mistake when he named it he had to be for navigation-religious
purposes died on. I found this answer in an indian word in michigan and
it was off because for the the name to be on a meridian and at lattitude
at that date could not be 2 degrees higher. So, here is the problem they
always noted comets back then but explain the zodiac moving in its improper
place would have disturbed the pants off of them see...Sir the records
are there I know it and would explain like we have to day the
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
interesting site and data. Well, how about the "great
flood of Noah"? Many find it difficult to conceive that such a cataclysmic
event could've happened. But if the data that you've gathered shows a "flood
like" event happening back around the time frame for the same flood event
that the bible describes, then why not? Does that historical data show
what the temperatures were at that time? I remember hearing that Lief Erickson
was able to live on the coast of Greenland during the 800 to 1225 ad time
period. Not that he lived that long but the the temps. were warm enough
to have allowed people to live there until the next "mini ice age" came
about. Perhaps a similarly cataclysmic event eclipsed the known or even
whole world at that time.
Steve Buckley
hebeleven@aol.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Ignatius, more info. for your effort/files. I found an
interesting chapter in a recently purchased book. It's called 'Guerneville
Early Days - A history of the lover Russian River' by John C. Schubert,
pub. 1997. Check out chapter 2, 'The lay of the land and the run of the
river'. Turns out that Guernville, on the Russian River, 75 miles north
of San Francisco, has an 'oxbow cutoff'. Geologic evidence is presented
which shows that the Russian River running through Guernville once followed
a completely different course! There is an 'oxbow cutoff' there. The aerial
photo of Guernville, taken in May, 1961 shows this obvious feature. Redwood
stumps with 2,400 rings and other anecdotal evidence shows that approx.
5,000 years ago, a tremendous flood cut thru the mountain and changed the
course of the river! This must have been one hell of a flood, as it cut
thru more then 100 feet of fairly solid rock/mountain to create the river's
current path! Also, a book by Stephen Powers, 'Indians of Northern California'
captures local indian mythology about a great flood.... The Kashiyah and
southern Pomo indians have a flood story/myth in their spoken traditions.
They recount a flood so great that only the people who climbed the highest
mountains around survived! It's part of their verbal creation stories...Stephen
Powers came to Calif. in 1867. He walked across the southern United States
to San Diego, back in 1867. He then traveled/walked North to 'Yerba Buena'
(S.F.) and settled North of the area between 1870-75. He made his living
selling the stories/accounts he wrote to prestigious eastern publications.
Arriving in this area, he decided to document the remaining native american
tribes. His records are one of the few accounts of the people that lived
here. Most of the Nat. Americans had been decimated by
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I want to know about the trade, homes and technology of
the people of the Alps 5000 years ago! I got to hand in a long paragragh
about this by tomorrow. please give me your best explanation about my inquiry
as fast as you can/ I really appreciate you sharing your precious time
on my personal question. thank You!!!
Andrew
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
May I have permission to use some of your material for
publication on web sites and evntually perhaps for inclusion into a documentary?
I would like to discuss this further via personal e-mail if I may. D.Laing
D.Laing
dlaing@cybrwks.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
To the R.I.O.T. group, You people are psuedo-scientists.
That case is definitely closed. I would love to hear where you found that
the planets are going to aline themselves in the year 2000, but the last
I heard from the field of astronomy, that is a long way off my friends.
Are you just millineum freaks or something. Do you realize the millineum
does not hit us in 2000 A.D.? Did you realize the millineum change will
occur in the year 2001? That's right. If you will recall, there was never
a year 0 A.D. Before you people try to force you misguided beliefs on others,
why not talk to real scientists,
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Your site makes alot of sense with climate changes affecting
world civilizations, but maybe it's time that you went off the traveled
path and look into Atlantis. Specifically Atlantis myths in regards to
Antarctica. Here's a Hint to get you started if you choose research anything
related to Atlantis. Atlantis is in the center of
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Your very large and detailed site contains a lot of data
about a catastrophic rise in sea level. It is mighty hard to follow though.
There is too much information that doesn't really relate to the data. It
would also be nice to have a single detailed index page, with or without
a link mapped graphic. For what it's worth, I'm going to add links to a
few of your pages to one of my tiny little indices. Keep up the
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
errrr.....what the hell?
Jonboy
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Interesting site. Much like the rest of the Super-DisInformation
Highway, a good mix of opinion, idea, myth, fantasy, and observation masquarading
as fact and art (hence, the impostering of that dead man, I. Donnelly,
has a certain merit). As for the comments.. really, somebody should at
least remove some of the repeated spam.. I notice that the dissenters herein
resort only to name- calling (mammalian shit-throwing), and fail to post
anything even approaching the data that you have on your site. The GOD
worshippers could at least admit, that, assuming an omnipotent deity, all
of your data and conclusions could still easily be correct, and "nature"
simply a vehicle of Its power. Since we can't really even explain how we
command our own hands to type on a keyboard, we really can't rule out the
possibility of some spiritual force. I suspect, though, that for the most
part, if some a deity does exist, it doesn't depend on our belief in it.
I do think too much is made of the Bible by scientists and yourself herein(although
to be expected considering the nature of the works of your impostered dead
author).. always trying to find explanations for this or that.. or trying
to prove or disprove it.. or using it as a prop for outdated moralities
of all kinds and supposed historical phenomena/events of all sorts. It
doesn't seem to me that this site has much to do with Evolution of Species,
a rather untenable theory without much proof, (as differs from the evolution
of traits within the same species, a verifiable phenomena, easily observed
with a can of insect repellant and a few generations of roaches). If some
spirituality (i.e. GOD, Krisna, Gaia, ExtraTerrestrials, ExtraDimensionals,
other etc etc), does exist, surely this would affect the development of
species on this planet, and some theorists propose catastrophism in the
development of lifeforms as well.. (i.e. sudden shifts where a species
suddenly appears with no apparent direct link to a previous ancestor).
Some scientists even find time appears non-continuous when observed with
certain instruments (i.e. jumping from one moment to the next). People
often forget that only through rigorous training can we learn to observe
the same event in the same way, and without that training (or with opposing
training styles) the most intelligent seeming people can argue forever
about the "true" nature of phenomena and its supposed numena (cause). Anyway..
hope you update your site.. needs more intersectional links back to previous
pages and to the index.. and you might add an exposing section that reveals
your true impostering nature for those new to the
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I think that historians are wrong. The flow of history
is too smooth and that there was an advanced civilization that we don't
know about. The one thing is for sure ancient Egypt, the Minoans, the Babalonians,
and early Greeks are the key to the advanced civilization. Historians say
that after the ice age human civilization started and we are at the peek
right now. I hypothisis that there was another civilization that was ahead
for its time...could it be Atlantis??? We will just have to
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Er,...uh,...Hmm! Love your details. You obviously know
your stuff when it comes to er,...uh,...Aquiferologisticism??? Not sure
what you're implying with it tho? Biblioevoluticreatiohistamutatism? (Definetly
got a good chuckle from it, 'specially the Sullivan stuff!)
L. Hill
vettbass@gte.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
What is the latest on the comet Enke?
Rahn Heart
Questar7@worldnet.att.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Thanks for your wonderful article. QUESTION ?
Bram Diepenbrock
BD94585@concentric.net
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Hello again Ignatius!...More coal for your 'fire'! can
be found at: http://www.ames.net/aeon/index.html I found this AMES research
site while looking around at archeoastronomy sites. The author(s) describe
translations from Summarian texts/poems and other early writtings. If the
translations are correct...the ancients agree with Velikovsky's theory
of a major re-alignment of the planets...some 11,000 BP. VERY interesting
stuff in there...I hope you find the time to visit that site. Perhaps some
of the info. can be added to your volumes? The ancients record Venus with
a cometary appearance! Saturn not where it is today and other interesting
observations...An ex-girlfriend of mine was a 'trained psychic'...by the
Berkeley Psychic Institute (sheesh!). I never took much stock in what she
had to say about 'past lives'...thought her simply using the stories she
told as a tool to establish communications with the sub-conscious mind
of those she offered readings to. She did a lot of 'readings' for me as
we lived together for about a year. One of the readings really upset me.
She told me that we had been together in a previous incarnation - in ATLANTIS!
We were well known 'healers'...sought out by all. I found her story interesting
at least..but was suprised by a series of dreams I had soon after. In these
dreams I discover that I am
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Could it be a pole shift like the one predicted for the
very near future?
Jeff Mustion
jmustion@specent.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
This data correlates well with Noah's flood, described
in the Bible (Genesis 6,7,8). The best explanation for the cause is a thermonuclear
event in the oceanic curst initiating crystalline changes in the peridotite
with 10% expansion. The ocean floor rose to inundate the land while heated
water evaporated to provide the fresh water rain for 150 days (not just
the first 40 days before the ark floated).
Dr. Fred
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
You have a lot of data on the Middle East, but I'd be
interested in knowing more about what may have happened in the southwestern
U.S. area. I see you have a comment from "B,P" in Arizona who says, "Research
I conducted in SE Utah supports a climatic "perturbation" around 5000 B.P."
If you know other web sites that cover this subject, or can give me an
e-mail address for B.P. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Michael
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Please see the paper at my webb site concering Vulcan
(the sun's companion star), comets, and impending catastrophe. There are
references to "the flood" and some very interesting correlations.
Sam Abraham
sabraham@geocites.com
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Ahhh, Ignatius...I see that you have collected a following
of fundamental religious 'types'. What 'gets me' about these 'god-squad'ers,
is that they take their own interpretations so seriously, without using
their 'god-given' ability to think = Gnosis (What about the facts?). Don't
they know that 'the Christ' they speak of, is the ROMAN version (The empire
strikes BACK! For example
'D'= ME
djacobs@mcn.org
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
Prior to the flood our earth was covered by a watery canope.
This kept the average temp closer to the idealfor plants. This temp was
within 4 degrees of the due-point. This caaused a protection of our biological
processes from cosmic radiation from the sun andd extended our lifespan
to reach close to 1000 years of age before we die of old age. RAin was
unheard of prior to Noahs ark time as the fog of the day (protection) settled
upon the green plants to water them every night. (like dew on the grass
in the fall lawns. This cleared the night sky so as to view the stars,
but lifted back to sky to protect humans during the day under to sun. This
diffused day light heated the north and south poles and tempered the equator
so as to causse a paradise greenery. This is all available by studying
your bible. sinccerely John Becker
John Becker
john becker
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Dear Mr. Donnelly:
I don't think anyone gives Immanuel Velikovsky's works
enough credit. Even Albert Einstein laughed in his face. (In a matter of
speaking) After probes were sent to Venus and other planets and relaying
back data that proved Velikovsky's theorys correct. Albert Einstien acknowledged
Velikovsky's work after the data was recieved. A lot of so called scientists
that begrudged him are now comming around. But most still can't swallow
the other theories that Velikovsky "predicted" yet they have not been disproved.
Of course we can only speculate what really happened, despite know facts,
only God really knows. Now that Velikovsky's "predictions" are coming true,
all you can do is squabble about him borrowing some early material. Thats
ridiculess, every Scientist, Teacher, Chemist, Doctor, Engineer...etc.
uses or is influenced by his predicessors idea, books, papers, or beliefs.
Lets give a very intelligent and open minded scientist, Doctor, Futurist,
Visonary...etc some well deserved credit.
William W.